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		<title>Comment on International Momentum Grows by Alex Rich</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/2010/03/08/international-momentum-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-1111</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 17:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On  an environmental basis I agree with your campaign . I also have little use for phone books -certainly not with an annual update.   However it  seems pretty obvious you have a vested interest the campaign. It would be less obvious if your charges for the occasional (maybe 4 or 5 times a year )user like my self were reduced or  validity of the credits did not  expire so early .That  is why  I no longer use your service .  When I did use it I found  it excellent.  -Regards -Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On  an environmental basis I agree with your campaign . I also have little use for phone books -certainly not with an annual update.   However it  seems pretty obvious you have a vested interest the campaign. It would be less obvious if your charges for the occasional (maybe 4 or 5 times a year )user like my self were reduced or  validity of the credits did not  expire so early .That  is why  I no longer use your service .  When I did use it I found  it excellent.  -Regards -Alex</p>
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		<title>Comment on Going, going, gone by Mal Goode</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/2010/02/25/going-going-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-1108</link>
		<dc:creator>Mal Goode</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 11:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no need to reduce the size of phonebooks to allow them to go thrrough a letter box. They already fit into my recycle bin with ease. Thats where they go same day as delivered. The bin is by the front door so  I wonder if I can request the delivery person to put them in there for me? Utter lunacy of waste in a green minded era.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no need to reduce the size of phonebooks to allow them to go thrrough a letter box. They already fit into my recycle bin with ease. Thats where they go same day as delivered. The bin is by the front door so  I wonder if I can request the delivery person to put them in there for me? Utter lunacy of waste in a green minded era.</p>
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		<title>Comment on International Momentum Grows by Kay Durrant</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/2010/03/08/international-momentum-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-1107</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Durrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 10:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would happily sign this petition if not having a book was any advantage to me - to get  a number from any of the requst places it costs a lot of money, and as a pensioner and a widow with all my bills to pay myself, all those 50+ pences that I save by looking in the books can mount up tp quite a lot if you are looking for a service, so make the requests cheaper  - they used to be free! - and then people like myself might sign</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would happily sign this petition if not having a book was any advantage to me &#8211; to get  a number from any of the requst places it costs a lot of money, and as a pensioner and a widow with all my bills to pay myself, all those 50+ pences that I save by looking in the books can mount up tp quite a lot if you are looking for a service, so make the requests cheaper  &#8211; they used to be free! &#8211; and then people like myself might sign</p>
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		<title>Comment on International Momentum Grows by Katie Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/2010/03/08/international-momentum-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-1106</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jerry,

The ‘Say No To Phonebooks’ campaign team would like to respond directly to your post and thank you for taking the time to explain the DPA’s position on the subject. 

However, the first and most important thing we would like to point out about this campaign is that we’re looking to significantly reduce the production, delivery and collection of unwanted phonebooks. You say we assume phonebooks are ‘unwanted’. We know, from independent research, that 41% of people simply don’t use printed directories anymore. Directory advertisers market to the other half of the population, while our target is to reduce the natural and local government resources wasted on this 41%. Still don’t believe us? The anecdotal evidence is everywhere – phonebooks left on doorsteps and 1 in 4 people saying that last year’s phonebook never even made it out of the plastic (including Pamela from Gavin &amp; Stacey!).

If we no longer produced directories for this 41%, we have the potential to save:
 - 25,000 tonnes of waste
 - 100 million kilowatts of electricity
 - 300,000 barrels of oil
 - 820 million litres of water
 - £3 million worth of council funds
 - And 33,000 metric tonnes of carbon emissions 

All this without affecting local commerce and communities because this is simply about not delivering phonebooks to people who don’t use them. 

On the point of an opt-out facility being available, is this service widely publicised? Is this information easy to find on the publishers website? Is it promoted on the inside cover of the phonebook? The best place we’ve found to opt-out of phonebooks all in one place is www.junkbuster.org.uk 

Further to the press release, if the new Yell directories have been designed to fit through letter boxes, will they be delivered even when a person has a ‘No Junk Mail’ sticker? 

Regards
Katie Gardner
Say No To Phonebooks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jerry,</p>
<p>The ‘Say No To Phonebooks’ campaign team would like to respond directly to your post and thank you for taking the time to explain the DPA’s position on the subject. </p>
<p>However, the first and most important thing we would like to point out about this campaign is that we’re looking to significantly reduce the production, delivery and collection of unwanted phonebooks. You say we assume phonebooks are ‘unwanted’. We know, from independent research, that 41% of people simply don’t use printed directories anymore. Directory advertisers market to the other half of the population, while our target is to reduce the natural and local government resources wasted on this 41%. Still don’t believe us? The anecdotal evidence is everywhere – phonebooks left on doorsteps and 1 in 4 people saying that last year’s phonebook never even made it out of the plastic (including Pamela from Gavin &#038; Stacey!).</p>
<p>If we no longer produced directories for this 41%, we have the potential to save:<br />
 &#8211; 25,000 tonnes of waste<br />
 &#8211; 100 million kilowatts of electricity<br />
 &#8211; 300,000 barrels of oil<br />
 &#8211; 820 million litres of water<br />
 &#8211; £3 million worth of council funds<br />
 &#8211; And 33,000 metric tonnes of carbon emissions </p>
<p>All this without affecting local commerce and communities because this is simply about not delivering phonebooks to people who don’t use them. </p>
<p>On the point of an opt-out facility being available, is this service widely publicised? Is this information easy to find on the publishers website? Is it promoted on the inside cover of the phonebook? The best place we’ve found to opt-out of phonebooks all in one place is <a href="http://www.junkbuster.org.uk" rel="nofollow">http://www.junkbuster.org.uk</a> </p>
<p>Further to the press release, if the new Yell directories have been designed to fit through letter boxes, will they be delivered even when a person has a ‘No Junk Mail’ sticker? </p>
<p>Regards<br />
Katie Gardner<br />
Say No To Phonebooks</p>
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		<title>Comment on International Momentum Grows by Jim Wright</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/2010/03/08/international-momentum-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-1100</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim Wright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use 192.com for any UK contacts I need to make.  Here in Australia, an opt-in process for paper directories is under consideration.   I sympathise with those who are worried that on-line directories may be used for commercial purposes.  Our biggest (formerly government-owned) telco runs the Yellow Pages (printed and on-line) through a subsidiary and I have a sneaky idea that Telstra customers get better placement than customers of other telcos.  Perhaps a government or NFP organisation should provide the basic directories with companies such as 192.com providing the add-ons and more expansive information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use 192.com for any UK contacts I need to make.  Here in Australia, an opt-in process for paper directories is under consideration.   I sympathise with those who are worried that on-line directories may be used for commercial purposes.  Our biggest (formerly government-owned) telco runs the Yellow Pages (printed and on-line) through a subsidiary and I have a sneaky idea that Telstra customers get better placement than customers of other telcos.  Perhaps a government or NFP organisation should provide the basic directories with companies such as 192.com providing the add-ons and more expansive information.</p>
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		<title>Comment on International Momentum Grows by Jerry Gosney</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/2010/03/08/international-momentum-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-1096</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry Gosney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m the executive director of the Data Publishers Association, which
includes local directory publishers among its members, and naturally I&#039;ve
been interested to see your campaign on phonebooks and the related online
petition.

Your premise appears to be that phonebooks are unwanted and are an
environmental burden. This is simply not the case - our members&#039;
directories are well-used, make a strong contribution to local economies
and are produced in a highly responsible and sustainable manner.

Directory publishers work closely with local authorities to recycle and
divert used directories from landfill and the four main publishers, Yell,
BT, Thomson Local and KCOM, have made considerable progress. Together they
have achieved an aggregate rate of 73.88% -  already ahead of the 70%
benchmark Defra is expecting all sides of the publishing and direct mail
industries to achieve by 2013.

If you add in the impact of  programmes such as composting and energy
recovery, then diversion from landfill is even higher, with one of our
larger publishers reporting rates of over 90% - a remarkable achievement,
and some way from the picture painted in the media of directories clogging
up landfill sites.

In addition, the aggregate use of recycled paper by the four publishers
mentioned is above 50%, already close to the Defra target for 2013. All
directories are 100 per cent recyclable.

Directories play a vital role in underpinning commerce in local communities
across the country, linking consumers and businesses
with traders and suppliers. The value of transactions generated by Yellow
Pages alone is estimated to be in excess of £67 bn a year. And Stephen
Alambritis, of the Federation of Small Businesses, is recently on record
stating his members rely on printed directories for their success.

Thousands of traders and local companies wouldn’t promote themselves in
local directory phone books if they didn’t work in generating  business for
them - and they clearly wouldn’t work if consumers didn’t want them and
binned them unopened.

I&#039;d also like to emphasise that all UK directory publishers maintain an
opt-out scheme that enables consumers to choose not to receive a printed
directory. This is a workable, successful option offering consumer choice.
The number choosing this option is small.

There is, of course, no room here for complacency in any of this. That’s
why the DPA has drawn up a Sustainability Code of Practice, setting
standards publishers must observe, and each year produces a report showing
both compliance and progress towards the 2013 targets set by Defra.

One final point, you claim that your campaign has led to Yell reducing the
size of its Yellow Pages directories. This is not the case, but was a decision
based on research into the views of consumers as explained in the following
press release:
                                                                            
        http://tinyurl.com/yhkjonh    

Jerry Gosney
Executive Director
Data Publishers Association</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m the executive director of the Data Publishers Association, which<br />
includes local directory publishers among its members, and naturally I&#8217;ve<br />
been interested to see your campaign on phonebooks and the related online<br />
petition.</p>
<p>Your premise appears to be that phonebooks are unwanted and are an<br />
environmental burden. This is simply not the case &#8211; our members&#8217;<br />
directories are well-used, make a strong contribution to local economies<br />
and are produced in a highly responsible and sustainable manner.</p>
<p>Directory publishers work closely with local authorities to recycle and<br />
divert used directories from landfill and the four main publishers, Yell,<br />
BT, Thomson Local and KCOM, have made considerable progress. Together they<br />
have achieved an aggregate rate of 73.88% &#8211;  already ahead of the 70%<br />
benchmark Defra is expecting all sides of the publishing and direct mail<br />
industries to achieve by 2013.</p>
<p>If you add in the impact of  programmes such as composting and energy<br />
recovery, then diversion from landfill is even higher, with one of our<br />
larger publishers reporting rates of over 90% &#8211; a remarkable achievement,<br />
and some way from the picture painted in the media of directories clogging<br />
up landfill sites.</p>
<p>In addition, the aggregate use of recycled paper by the four publishers<br />
mentioned is above 50%, already close to the Defra target for 2013. All<br />
directories are 100 per cent recyclable.</p>
<p>Directories play a vital role in underpinning commerce in local communities<br />
across the country, linking consumers and businesses<br />
with traders and suppliers. The value of transactions generated by Yellow<br />
Pages alone is estimated to be in excess of £67 bn a year. And Stephen<br />
Alambritis, of the Federation of Small Businesses, is recently on record<br />
stating his members rely on printed directories for their success.</p>
<p>Thousands of traders and local companies wouldn’t promote themselves in<br />
local directory phone books if they didn’t work in generating  business for<br />
them &#8211; and they clearly wouldn’t work if consumers didn’t want them and<br />
binned them unopened.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to emphasise that all UK directory publishers maintain an<br />
opt-out scheme that enables consumers to choose not to receive a printed<br />
directory. This is a workable, successful option offering consumer choice.<br />
The number choosing this option is small.</p>
<p>There is, of course, no room here for complacency in any of this. That’s<br />
why the DPA has drawn up a Sustainability Code of Practice, setting<br />
standards publishers must observe, and each year produces a report showing<br />
both compliance and progress towards the 2013 targets set by Defra.</p>
<p>One final point, you claim that your campaign has led to Yell reducing the<br />
size of its Yellow Pages directories. This is not the case, but was a decision<br />
based on research into the views of consumers as explained in the following<br />
press release:</p>
<p>        <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yhkjonh" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yhkjonh</a>    </p>
<p>Jerry Gosney<br />
Executive Director<br />
Data Publishers Association</p>
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		<title>Comment on International Momentum Grows by Katie Gardner</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/2010/03/08/international-momentum-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-1095</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the record, 192.com (and other online directories) do offer directory enquiry searches for free. 

Independent research shows that 41% of people simply don&#039;t use printed directories anymore. If we saved the natural resources and council funds consumed for these directories, we have an instant win without affecting consumers or local businesses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record, 192.com (and other online directories) do offer directory enquiry searches for free. </p>
<p>Independent research shows that 41% of people simply don&#8217;t use printed directories anymore. If we saved the natural resources and council funds consumed for these directories, we have an instant win without affecting consumers or local businesses.</p>
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		<title>Comment on International Momentum Grows by Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/2010/03/08/international-momentum-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-1094</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not support your campaign as it would appear your only motive is to profit from your website in the absence of a phone book. I think it is disgraceful to deceive people in this manner. Should you really care about the environment, then please provide the services free &amp; therefore people would not go for paper version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not support your campaign as it would appear your only motive is to profit from your website in the absence of a phone book. I think it is disgraceful to deceive people in this manner. Should you really care about the environment, then please provide the services free &amp; therefore people would not go for paper version.</p>
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		<title>Comment on International Momentum Grows by Shane Cartwright</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/2010/03/08/international-momentum-grows/comment-page-1/#comment-1091</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Cartwright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BULL S____    If you want a LOCAL company you need a phone book,  other wise you just land up with a national company who is willing to pay the highest &quot; PAY PER CLICK&quot; ,  often sited over 100 miles away. This campaign is not for enviromental reasons but commercial reasons started by the greedy search engines</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BULL S____    If you want a LOCAL company you need a phone book,  other wise you just land up with a national company who is willing to pay the highest &#8221; PAY PER CLICK&#8221; ,  often sited over 100 miles away. This campaign is not for enviromental reasons but commercial reasons started by the greedy search engines</p>
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		<title>Comment on Going, going, gone by June Hope</title>
		<link>http://www.saynotophonebooks.org/2010/02/25/going-going-gone/comment-page-1/#comment-1086</link>
		<dc:creator>June Hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of weeks ago I had a Yellow pages left on my front door step. 
About a week later I had one shoved through my front door.
How wasteful, I haven&#039;t even taken the plastic cover off last years, never mind this years. And now I have 2.
I Disgusted at the waste, if everyone on my estate had 2 delivered it amounts to thousands and if everyone in my village had 2 - the mind boggles.
Who monitors the delivery of these books?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of weeks ago I had a Yellow pages left on my front door step.<br />
About a week later I had one shoved through my front door.<br />
How wasteful, I haven&#8217;t even taken the plastic cover off last years, never mind this years. And now I have 2.<br />
I Disgusted at the waste, if everyone on my estate had 2 delivered it amounts to thousands and if everyone in my village had 2 &#8211; the mind boggles.<br />
Who monitors the delivery of these books?</p>
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